famous people & the pr mindset
Oct. 25th, 2021 02:45 pmmy friend was talking about the GISELLE_APOLOGY_TWEET n how they arent inclined to trust it cause it was definitely an sm employee or pr agent who wrote it earlier... tweets something as follows:
and isn't that just something to think about really... i find the impact things have on your psyche so interesting. (Like some things i've been thinking about recently have been how being quite very terminally online since i was 11/12 has shaped my relationship with gender and sexuality but that's not entirely relevant... i think it's fascinating how your life circumstances or what you do regularly shape you as a person.)
anyway the original interview where billie eilish said that is this one and what she said was, in full (emphasis my own):
and it's kinda scary (?) to hear about the way their work life ends up influencing their personal life... especially cause celebrities nowadays sell their personality and their actual life rather than just their art. so naturally it's so hard to separate FAMOUS_SELF from PRIVATE_SELF and turn off the FAMOUS_SELF mindset and training...
and also because billie eilish is only a year (actually like 11 months) older than me so it was really shocking to see her talk about this because. at such a young age she's already been trained to be a person in public in a way so pervasive that it affects her personal relationships which is really shocking! i don't know. i really think being young and famous should not be allowed like it will really really damage you as a person... it's scary to hear the types of things young people in the public eye go through. (in the same billie eilish interview – the second link where i took the full quote from – she was talking about how she's been like... physically grabbed by fans and stuff and she was only. 17? in that video which is really quite terrifying!!!)
plus if this is the case for a western celebrity i wonder how it must be for kpop idols who are trained intensely around the clock. definitely western celebs also get pr training but considering exactly how much of kpop idols' lives are marketed i am really curious how it affects them and shapes their entire lives. it is really quite scary!
no thesis statement to this post i was just thinking about it... if anyone has thoughts plz leave a comment or something i wld love to discuss! thanks for reading x
> X: she ain’t write that apology either you all are under a tweet reassuring an sm employee. a PR agent
> (...)
> ME: i love when famous people apologise cause obviously it's not them doing it
> X: the only apologies i’m slightly inclined to believe are handwritten or verbal ones and even then there’s always the strong possibility that they’re being coached or copying something someone wrote for them already 😭😭
> ME: honestly like the more i think about it it's just not possible to believe anything famous people say at face value bc of the immense amount of coaching they get all the time...! i was watching this billie eilish interview the other day and she was talking abt how she literally
> ME: forgets how to have a conversation with human people and starts talking about herself like it's an interview bc thats what she gets coached to do. Famous people's minds r like... irreversibly changed by pr agents it's hard to believe anything any of them say
> X: please wait this is. omg
> X: like ur right but i do not wanna by hyper aware of that i just wanna enjoy my kpop men 😭😭
> X: Totally agree with u by the way like i understand exactly what ur saying but i'm not absorbing it cos ignorance is bliss
> X: please wait this is. omg
> X: like ur right but i do not wanna by hyper aware of that i just wanna enjoy my kpop men 😭😭
> X: Totally agree with u by the way like i understand exactly what ur saying but i'm not absorbing it cos ignorance is bliss
and isn't that just something to think about really... i find the impact things have on your psyche so interesting. (Like some things i've been thinking about recently have been how being quite very terminally online since i was 11/12 has shaped my relationship with gender and sexuality but that's not entirely relevant... i think it's fascinating how your life circumstances or what you do regularly shape you as a person.)
anyway the original interview where billie eilish said that is this one and what she said was, in full (emphasis my own):
"Sometimes I'll catch myself in a conversation with someone acting like I'm in an interview, and in interviews you're trained to talk about yourself and not ask the other person about themselves. And so I'll catch myself in conversations where I'm like, shit, like I'm not being interviewed, I'm acting like I'm being interviewed instead of acting like I'm talking to a human being. And I think some artists and celebrities haven't even learned that and still just do that. And people I love do that, that I've met where they just, they're trained to talk like they're in an interview and that's normal but it's like we forget that we're not though."
and it's kinda scary (?) to hear about the way their work life ends up influencing their personal life... especially cause celebrities nowadays sell their personality and their actual life rather than just their art. so naturally it's so hard to separate FAMOUS_SELF from PRIVATE_SELF and turn off the FAMOUS_SELF mindset and training...
and also because billie eilish is only a year (actually like 11 months) older than me so it was really shocking to see her talk about this because. at such a young age she's already been trained to be a person in public in a way so pervasive that it affects her personal relationships which is really shocking! i don't know. i really think being young and famous should not be allowed like it will really really damage you as a person... it's scary to hear the types of things young people in the public eye go through. (in the same billie eilish interview – the second link where i took the full quote from – she was talking about how she's been like... physically grabbed by fans and stuff and she was only. 17? in that video which is really quite terrifying!!!)
plus if this is the case for a western celebrity i wonder how it must be for kpop idols who are trained intensely around the clock. definitely western celebs also get pr training but considering exactly how much of kpop idols' lives are marketed i am really curious how it affects them and shapes their entire lives. it is really quite scary!
no thesis statement to this post i was just thinking about it... if anyone has thoughts plz leave a comment or something i wld love to discuss! thanks for reading x
side note about giselle & kpop stans:
it's honestly ridiculous how many people in the replies and qrts of GISELLE_APOLOGY_TWEET are babying the fuck out of her and saying "aw baby it's okay we still love you 🥺 hugs for giselle 🥺 giselle best girl" Shut up she's a grown lady she can handle a bit of flack... u don't need to baby the 20 year old... and my friend is right there's no way she wrote that apology herself lmao. i find kpop fans honestly ridiculous the way they treat idols sometimes as if they're not real people with agency... stop being weird about them!!!